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	<title>Comments on: The Bechdel Test &amp; An Animal-Friendly Film List</title>
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	<description>Heathen. Vegan. Feminist.</description>
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		<title>By: Because the world needs more vegan superheroes, &#187; V for Vegan: easyVegan.info</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-831659</link>
		<dc:creator>Because the world needs more vegan superheroes, &#187; V for Vegan: easyVegan.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more cow flesh in my chili, but I just couldn&#8217;t help it. For reals! After a few months of contemplation, and a few more spent trolling the internets, I realized that POP! might actually fill a (gasp!) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more cow flesh in my chili, but I just couldn&#8217;t help it. For reals! After a few months of contemplation, and a few more spent trolling the internets, I realized that POP! might actually fill a (gasp!) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Biff! Bam! Kapow! (And welcome!) &#187; POP! goes The Vegan.</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-830502</link>
		<dc:creator>Biff! Bam! Kapow! (And welcome!) &#187; POP! goes The Vegan.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it might be fun to collect all my movie reviews in one place, thus creating a sort of &#8220;animal friendly film list.&#8221; Though slow to come to fruition, the idea quickly ballooned, resulting in what you see [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it might be fun to collect all my movie reviews in one place, thus creating a sort of &#8220;animal friendly film list.&#8221; Though slow to come to fruition, the idea quickly ballooned, resulting in what you see [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly G.</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794515</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ neil - I smell a group blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ neil &#8211; I smell a group blog!</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794241</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, on the idea of the vegan test list itself...
I&#039;m not convinced on its usefulness. Personally, I think the Bechdel test serves a purpose because some people seem to think sexism doesn&#039;t exist anymore and having a very low bar test like Bechdel&#039;s failing so often is a way to raise questions about that (as you said, it&#039;s more about representation of women than feminism/sexism, but still).

For animal rights, I&#039;m not convinced that we&#039;re far enough along that it&#039;s useful to start raising questions, because I think it&#039;s obvious that animal rights are, well, not really an issue for most everybody. I guess my feeling is that what the list would prove is already very obvious to everybody: rights of animals suck and that&#039;s represented in the media too.

Of course, it would have other uses (e.g. CJB&#039;s example on the bunny shoot scene), but for that I think just a blog post per movie for example would do just fine. No fancy database needed :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, on the idea of the vegan test list itself&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m not convinced on its usefulness. Personally, I think the Bechdel test serves a purpose because some people seem to think sexism doesn&#8217;t exist anymore and having a very low bar test like Bechdel&#8217;s failing so often is a way to raise questions about that (as you said, it&#8217;s more about representation of women than feminism/sexism, but still).</p>
<p>For animal rights, I&#8217;m not convinced that we&#8217;re far enough along that it&#8217;s useful to start raising questions, because I think it&#8217;s obvious that animal rights are, well, not really an issue for most everybody. I guess my feeling is that what the list would prove is already very obvious to everybody: rights of animals suck and that&#8217;s represented in the media too.</p>
<p>Of course, it would have other uses (e.g. CJB&#8217;s example on the bunny shoot scene), but for that I think just a blog post per movie for example would do just fine. No fancy database needed :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly G.</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794236</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification, neil!</description>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794229</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The database appears to be mostly user-generated; users can add a movie to the existing list (”suggest” might be a more accurate term, as it has to be approved by the site admin),&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Just to clarify, I approve all actual movies that are submitted, the approving is just to prevent spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The database appears to be mostly user-generated; users can add a movie to the existing list (”suggest” might be a more accurate term, as it has to be approved by the site admin),</p></blockquote>
<p>Just to clarify, I approve all actual movies that are submitted, the approving is just to prevent spam.</p>
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		<title>By: CJB</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794223</link>
		<dc:creator>CJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Eric as well. 

Just last night with friends I thought about this while watching Bruno. I expected to be offended by Bruno but I had no idea there would be a hunting scene in which a rabbit was shot!! It was so upsetting that I would from this point on check a database before going to a movie in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Eric as well. </p>
<p>Just last night with friends I thought about this while watching Bruno. I expected to be offended by Bruno but I had no idea there would be a hunting scene in which a rabbit was shot!! It was so upsetting that I would from this point on check a database before going to a movie in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly G.</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794176</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point, Eric.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-794164</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thought is that the very basic minimum standard for an animal-friendly film list would be that the film does not exploit animals in order to be produced. In other words, if an animal is used by the filmmakers in a live action film, the film fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thought is that the very basic minimum standard for an animal-friendly film list would be that the film does not exploit animals in order to be produced. In other words, if an animal is used by the filmmakers in a live action film, the film fails.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly G.</title>
		<link>http://www.easyvegan.info/2009/07/27/the-bechdel-test-an-animal-friendly-film-list/comment-page-1/#comment-793223</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m loving the Bechdel Test Movie List! I&#039;d love to contribute more than the three films I initially added, but it&#039;s ridiculously hard to remember whether the two women in the film (assuming there were two) actually spoke directly to one another. Gonna have to keep a notebook on the coffee table from here on out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m loving the Bechdel Test Movie List! I&#8217;d love to contribute more than the three films I initially added, but it&#8217;s ridiculously hard to remember whether the two women in the film (assuming there were two) actually spoke directly to one another. Gonna have to keep a notebook on the coffee table from here on out.</p>
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